Here or the Hereafter

A 17th Century Theological Discussion


Seeing we went backwards rather then forwards, we thought ourselves uterly lost. That rogue that was with me sayd, “See thy God that thou sayest he is above. Will you make me believe now that he is good, as the black-coats [the ffather Jesuits] say? They doe lie, and you see the contrary; ffor first you see that the sun burns us often, the raine wetts us, the wind makes us have shipwrake, the thundering, the lightnings burns and kills, and all come from above, and you say that it’s good to be there. For my part I will not goe there. Contrary they say that the reprobats and guilty goeth downe & burne. They are mistaken; all is goode heare. Doe not you see the earth that nourishes all living creatures, the water the fishes, and the yus, and that corne and all other seasonable fruits for our foode, which things are not soe contrary to us as that from above?” As he said so he coursed vehemently after his owne maner. He tooke his instruments & shewed them to the heavens, saying, “I will not be above; here will [I] stay on earth, where all my friends are, and not with the french, that are to be burned above with torments.” How should one think to escape this torments and storms, but God who through his tender mercy ceas’d the tempest and gave us strength to row till we came to the side of the water? I may call it a mighty storme by reason of the litlenesse of the boat, that are all in watter to the breadth of 5 fingers or lesse. I thought uppon it, and out of distress made a vertue to seeke the means to save ourselves.

Radisson, Pierre Esprit. Voyages of Peter Esprit Radisson (pp. 47-48). . Kindle Edition.

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