It’s Time to Reassess His Role as Trump’s VP

Michael Pence (June 7, 1959)

I always presumed Mike Pence was Donald Trump’s yes-man. After yesterday’s January 6 Select Committee hearing, aired live on CNN for three hours, I have come to appreciate the man himself.

The timing of this chart is totally randomized. I didn’t know what I was expecting, but then that Venus/Mars conjunction in the early degrees of Leo (and possibly conjunct a late degrees Cancer Ascendant) reminded me that this man is capable of a love/hate relationship with the world.

Mars Inconjunct Saturn

This can be a difficult aspect because it signifies a conflict between your sense of responsibility and your desire to fulfill your own needs and do what you want. This leads to a struggle within you that may keep you from acting decisively. Instead of deciding what you will do, you feel caught between these two forces, wondering whether you have the right to do what you want. You may feel that others are trying to frustrate you, but it is only your own indecisiveness that is causing the trouble. Sometimes this conflict makes you very irritable and resentful about nothing in particular. Then, when someone happens to act in a way that is obviously annoying, you focus all your built-up anger on that person.

Sometimes with this aspect there really is someone in your life who discourages you and makes you feel that your efforts are futile. You must learn to avoid negative people who make you feel bad about yourself.

On the positive side, this aspect can mean that you control your aggressions and energies so that they work out constructively. But make sure that you do work our your aggression instead of keeping it hidden, because that can result in sudden bursts of temper, which may work against you. Also, if you repress these energies, they may turn against you and be expressed as illness or accidents.

What About THAT Phone Call on the Morning of January 6th, 2021?

It would have been interesting to be the one whose job was listening in on this call (but didn’t). The Trump family members witnessed his side of the discussion, but no one got to hear what Pence said to his President. Did his temper finally flare? Ivanka said that her father was speaking to Pence in tones and terms that Trump had never used before with Pence. My guess is that Trump miscalculated the effectiveness of pushing Pence a bit too much. And that is why the additions (and ad-libs) to his Ellipse speech in the afternoon were directed at his (up-until-then) compliant vice-president.

Maybe the chart comparison between Trump and Pence will help some of us make sense of their relationship. I now see why Trump chose him as his running-mate: he ‘ticked’ all the right boxes. But Pence’s Saturn @ 5° Capricorn was the final brake (break) to the group combination of energies.


About cdsmiller17

I am an Astrologer who also writes about world events. My first eBook "At This Point in Time" is available through most on-line book stores. I have now serialized my second book "The Star of Bethlehem" here. And I am experimenting with birth and death charts. If you wish to contact me, or request a birth chart, send an email to (And, in case you are also interested, I have an extensive list of celebrity birth and death details if you wish to 'confirm' what you suspect may be a past-life experience of yours.) Bless.
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1 Response to It’s Time to Reassess His Role as Trump’s VP

  1. cdsmiller17 says:

    Pence and his wife, Karen Pence, reacted “with frustration” to the fact that Trump never called to check on them, according to Jacob’s testimony.


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