Pope Francis and the Vatican


A New Relationship

While watching a YouTube video about the Pope’s birth chart, I was surprised by a statement early on in which the astrologer said that we didn’t need a chart for the Vatican, that we would only be analyzing Francis’.

What kind of ‘two-bit’ cowboy was this guy? Of course we would need to do a comparison with the Vatican, or else we would have only one side of the story.

The Vatican City


Unfortunately, it would be impossible to get an exact time and date for the building that was erected over St Peter’s tomb in the 4th Century, but the Vatican City State was created in 1929 and that will do as our symbol of the Holy See.

In fact, by using February 11, 1929 @ 11:05 am, when the Lanteran Treaty was signed, we get a very clear picture of the energy of the Vatican, especially in relationship to this Pope.

The Compatibility Chart


(All text from my Kepler 7.0 computer program.)

Pope’s Sun in Sagittarius and The Vatican’s Sun in Aquarius

Outgoing and progressive, both of you enjoy busy life styles that keep you on the go. Both of you enjoy meeting new people, traveling, and keeping up with current events; even in later life both of you will stay abreast of current trends in fashion, music, arts, literature, science, and politics. Pope tends to be a bit more philosophical than The Vatican, and likes to have a sense of mission and purpose, and is sometimes prone to grandiose visions and exaggerated hopes. Neither of you is particularly sentimental and your relationship may be very friendly but somewhat detached, and fortunately this is not likely to be viewed as a problem by either of you. You both are independent; with this friend you can have the space and freedom you need. Overall, your temperaments and interests are a bit different but blend well and this should be a rewarding friendship.

Pope’s Moon in Aquarius and The Vatican’s Moon in Pisces

Your emotional rhythms and temperaments are rather different. The Vatican is gentle, non-competitive, somewhat passive, and has a need to withdraw or “get away from it all” on a regular basis. Pope, on the other hand, needs involvement in the world and enjoys being in the flow of contemporary life.

More significantly, The Vatican is very sensitive emotionally and psychically, and is a deeply feeling person, while Pope responds more rationally and intellectually to people and situations. Pope has strong humanitarian or idealistic impulses, but frequently lacks empathy in personal situations, whereas The Vatican is so tender-hearted that others sometimes take advantage.

Pope is too cool, emotionally detached, and mental to suit The Vatican sometimes. Pope needs intellectual stimulation and companionship, and is rather uncomfortable with excessive displays of feeling and The Vatican’s emotionality in general. Also, The Vatican is highly intuitive, whereas Pope needs scientific evidence or support of the things that The Vatican takes on faith. Pope questions The Vatican’s hunches and emotional or psychic impressions. However, Pope can also help The Vatican get some distance and clarity about the emotional situations that The Vatican gets so immersed in.

Pope’s Sun Conjunct The Vatican’s Saturn

The two of you often work well together on shared responsibilities and practical matters of importance. However, there is also a constrained, serious tone to the relationship that can make it stifling and frustrating. The Vatican has a strong tendency to criticize and judge Pope’s actions, sometimes accurately and sometimes unjustly. The Vatican should guard against this tendency to dampen Pope’s enthusiasm, and Pope needs to avoid bing overly sensitive to The Vatican’s suggestions and criticisms. The Vatican’s tendency to dominate, control, or even repress Pope makes Pope feel resentful at times, and Pope may feel lowered in vitality and self-confidence after being with The Vatican for a long time. You must make room for lightness and play, or you both will feel burdened by the tone that is set between you.

Pope’s Sun Opposition The Vatican’s Mars

This is an active, energetic relationship and you can accomplish a great deal together. Be wary, however, of the tendency to butt heads when your combined dynamic energy makes you both feel impatient.

The Vatican’s Sun Trine Pope’s Mars

Successful cooperation in achieving goals and accomplishing tasks is highlighted. You make an excellent working team and you are able to assist each other in achieving specific, concrete goals.

Pope’s Moon Conjunct The Vatican’s Mercury

You enjoy long conversations, confiding in each other, sharing your inner feelings and thoughts. You enjoy “psychoanalyzing” each other and others as well. At worst, this can degrade into gossip and at best it can provide a depth of mutual understanding and self-discovery that is enlightening, nourishing, and refreshing.

The Vatican’s Moon Conjunct Pope’s Saturn

You don’t loosen up and enjoy each other’s company as much as you might have hoped. The mood that develops when you get together is formal, even constrained and inhibited at times. The Vatican may feel that Pope is too critical, acting like a parent or authority towards the Vatican. However, you do respect one another, are very responsible to each other, and feel that you understand each other even though communication is often stilted and difficult.

The Vatican’s Moon Sextile Pope’s Mercury

You enjoy long talks and feel very much at home with each other. You are able to openly share your feelings about almost any subject. You will find that as you spend more time together, your tastes, interests, hobbies, and activities tend to blend together harmoniously. Your friendship is a strong and lasting one.

Pope’s Mercury Opposition The Vatican’s Pluto

Your conversations have a deep, probing quality. You uncover hidden aspects of yourselves and, in general, you find that you can share at a much deeper level than you can with most people. If you encounter a topic where you strongly disagree with each other, you will both hammer on this issue until it is resolved or until death — whichever comes first!

Pope’s Mercury Square The Vatican’s Venus

You enjoy sharing ideas about the arts, literature, and people but often you fail to understand each other and sometimes reach a complete impasse. Your feelings towards each other are sometimes misunderstood, too. Both of you will have to tolerate one another’s different points of view for this relationship to work successfully.

Pope’s Venus Square The Vatican’s Jupiter

You enjoy laughing, playing, socializing, and going out together to have a good time. You are expansive and generous with each other and are inclined to spend unwisely, overeat, or otherwise overindulge when you’re together. If you live together or work closely with one another, disagreements regarding finances, budgeting, or investments are likely to arise.

Pope’s Venus Sextile The Vatican’s Venus

There is a beautiful flow of love between the two of you, and you are able to both give and receive affection, appreciation, and tenderness in this relationship. You enjoy the same pleasures and find it easy and natural to do those things that really please and make your friend happy. Your taste in aesthetics is also very compatible.

Pope’s Mars Square The Vatican’s Pluto

You inspire, vitalize, and energize one another and you can accomplish much together, but you can easily become overly zealous, even fanatical, in your pursuits. It is also likely that your objectives will sometimes be different and you will feel at cross-purposes with each other. You often end up in power struggles, being very competitive with each other, and trying to manipulate or dominate one another. The Vatican, especially, can override or undermine Pope’s efforts.

The Vatican’s Mars Square Pope’s Neptune

It is very difficult for the two of you to jointly accomplish practical, mundane tasks. You draw out the silly, childish, imaginative side of of each other, and you often will simply not be able to clearly focus on practical tasks. If either of you has a drinking, drug, or psychological problem, it is likely your relationship will highlight this problem. Be wary of the tendency of both of you to overindulge in these kinds of bad habits.

Pope’s Mars Trine The Vatican’s Mars

You are able to coordinate your efforts and work together very well on practical tasks. You make an excellent working team. There is a warm, stimulating, energizing quality between you, and you generate a lot of steam for anything you undertake together. You also discover your physical drives and desires are very much in sync.


Italy Vatican Pope~s _admi

The doom and gloom that has been circulating about Pope Francis and the Roman Catholic Church is just the early stages of what appears to be a long and purposeful dynamic. Of course, there are growing pains in any relationship, but the key will be to stand back and look at the good that they can do together.

Their demise is premature. The man and his job are compatible.

About cdsmiller17

I am an Astrologer who also writes about world events. My first eBook "At This Point in Time" is available through most on-line book stores. I have now serialized my second book "The Star of Bethlehem" here. And to give my blog pages something lighter, I'm sharing some of my personal photographs, too.
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